Questions about Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram

[mf86]

Hello everybody! I started studying the LBRP and got a few questions(maybe stupid questions, but i'm new into this).

Can i say the words in other languages besides english?
Can i just say iti n my mind or has to be loud? I live with a few people and would like to make my practices just for me and quietly.

 

[Morell]

Hello everybody! I started studying the LBRP and got a few questions(maybe stupid questions, but i'm new into this).

Can i say the words in other languages besides english?
Can i just say iti n my mind or has to be loud? I live with a few people and would like to make my practices just for me and quietly.

Yes and yes.

Practice is what matters. Change of language if other one feels better is fine. Though if I remember right, LBPR is manily saying names and it is a custom not to transalte names.

You can also whisper. I whisper my banishing rites all the time. That way I hear myself, but no other human does.

 

[mf86]

Yes and yes.

Practice is what matters. Change of language if other one feels better is fine. Though if I remember right, LBPR is manily saying names and it is a custom not to transalte names.

You can also whisper. I whisper my banishing rites all the time. That way I hear myself, but no other human does.

Thank you very much! Waiting for my Condensend Chaos arrive to dive into head first!

 

[ewiz]

I'd second whispering, even if it's an inaudible whisper. It's better practice that way. And I agree you wouldn't want to translate the names, but everything else would be perfectly fine. Also Condensed Chaos is a good place to start

 

[mf86]

I'd second whispering, even if it's an inaudible whisper. It's better practice that way. And I agree you wouldn't want to translate the names, but everything else would be perfectly fine. Also Condensed Chaos is a good place to start

Thank you! Could you recomend a good source/how to for the lbrp? I was watching some youtube videos but they always have some diffrences between them.

 

[Morell]

Thank you! Could you recomend a good source/how to for the lbrp? I was watching some youtube videos but they always have some diffrences between them.

Pick one of your liking.
If you are creative, you can also take Liber null and design one yourself using the template from that book.

 

[mf86]

Pick one of your liking.
If you are creative, you can also take Liber null and design one yourself using the template from that book.

Could i say that the power is in the visualization and the believing?

 

[ewiz]

I'd say that repetition of all the actions is the most important with this ritual. One of the main reasons this is often taught as someone's first ritual is that is trains you to do many things, not just to visualize. Through regular practice you will improve your ability to define your own ritual space and to feel and listen to what your mind and body have to say during all other magic you might perform in the future, not just during this particular ritual. In the pre-internet days, it was not uncommon to hear about students being expected to perform the LBRP daily for as long as a year before being allowed to move on to anything else. I think for a beginner, it might be best to think of it like working out. The first few times you go to the gym, you might not really know what to do. You will probably be sloppy, but that's ok. After you keep going for a little while you get more comfortable, and eventually it becomes second nature. But I would strongly suggest trying to physically perform the ritual as closely as possible. Making the signs with your hands and whispering to yourself will be 1000x more effective than simply visualizing it.

 

[mf86]

I'd say that repetition of all the actions is the most important with this ritual. One of the main reasons this is often taught as someone's first ritual is that is trains you to do many things, not just to visualize. Through regular practice you will improve your ability to define your own ritual space and to feel and listen to what your mind and body have to say during all other magic you might perform in the future, not just during this particular ritual. In the pre-internet days, it was not uncommon to hear about students being expected to perform the LBRP daily for as long as a year before being allowed to move on to anything else. I think for a beginner, it might be best to think of it like working out. The first few times you go to the gym, you might not really know what to do. You will probably be sloppy, but that's ok. After you keep going for a little while you get more comfortable, and eventually it becomes second nature. But I would strongly suggest trying to physically perform the ritual as closely as possible. Making the signs with your hands and whispering to yourself will be 1000x more effective than simply visualizing it.

Clear a water. Now i've got it!

 

[Accipeveldare]

Hello everybody! I started studying the LBRP and got a few questions(maybe stupid questions, but i'm new into this).

Can i say the words in other languages besides english?
Can i just say iti n my mind or has to be loud? I live with a few people and would like to make my practices just for me and quietly.

Depending on the situation, I use a wand or dagger and do it all allowed, or I visualize it with my eyes closed and do it there. It doesnt matter how you do it.

 

[Firetree]

I'd second whispering, even if it's an inaudible whisper. It's better practice that way. And I agree you wouldn't want to translate the names, but everything else would be perfectly fine. Also Condensed Chaos is a good place to start

I'll third it . Sure, silence and visualization are good , but part of the process is visualizing the word in letters coming out with the breath , so a whisper supplies that breath out that is modified by the physical forming of the letters into sound .

And that actually has a physical effect - as the changing letters in the sounds changes the actualy vibration ; you can try it on a home made 'chladni plate ' ( a snare or a tight tambourine with some sandy like substance on it .... try vibrating slowly with sound ; Aaaaaaauuuuuu .... uuuuuuummmmmmmmm . and watch the mandala change shape