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David Lynch and the Inherent Goodness of Pie and Coffee (video)

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A video of David Lynch describing reality pairs beautifully with Guillermo del Toro on Lynch's 'unironic' awareness of the inherent goodness of pie and coffee.

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That model appears to still have consciousness separated from matter. Not a unified field with matter/spacetime. It maps consciousness as coming from some other fabricated place that has no reality. Accessed psychologically with what amounts to a hypnotic suggestion from the mantra. Providing something like an induced Overview Effect. However, even a falsehood leading to the overview experiences convinced him of benefits, and the overview effect should. The method is adaptable to a unified field physical model that has consciousness/life as part of matter. While discarding the unnecessary falsehood of a transcendent space with its inherent problems such as detachment.

I've been listening to Silversun Pickups today and they have a David Lynch song. Posting here as an outro for the unfamiliar with the band... their lyrics and videos have surreal and occult meanings.
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Sweet song, Kepler! Thank you!

Hmm, my own implicit Neoplatonism may have had me read Lynch there as saying the field (God, the One, Source, Azathoth, or whatever) gives rise to both mind and matter. I also totally get along with pagans and atheists who jettison a rarefied field of consciousness, but to me, that's like saying the apps on your phone are the operating system.

I think the pagan "implicit consciousness" and the Neoplatonic "transcendent yet immanent" are both just ways for us to model and make sense of deep Mystery. I can get on board with the idea that it is all part of the same system, as long as the hierarchy of information/awareness doesn't get flattened too much.

Oh, and Lynch is also an animist. Twin Peaks Season 3 is pretty much about, as a core plot point, humans being manipulated by spirits and forces beyond their awareness.
 

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Sweet song, Kepler! Thank you!

Hmm, my own implicit Neoplatonism may have had me read Lynch there as saying the field (God, the One, Source, Azathoth, or whatever) gives rise to both mind and matter. I also totally get along with pagans and atheists who jettison a rarefied field of consciousness, but to me, that's like saying the apps on your phone are the operating system.

I think the pagan "implicit consciousness" and the Neoplatonic "transcendent yet immanent" are both just ways for us to model and make sense of deep Mystery. I can get on board with the idea that it is all part of the same system, as long as the hierarchy of information/awareness doesn't get flattened too much.

Oh, and Lynch is also an animist. Twin Peaks Season 3 is pretty much about, as a core plot point, humans being manipulated by spirits and forces beyond their awareness.
In a unified model matter and spacetime are consciousness/life and the Source, not arising from the Source as separate. It's a fundamental holistic distinction that prevents philosophical vicious regress without resorting to a priori.

Thanks for the point to and reminder of season 3, I've been meaning to watch it.
 

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Yeah, it all started fine with with Plato, then after British Empire got hold of it , mixed it with technocratic, left-brained jibber-jabber, and imagined a dead machine clockwork universe.

This is cool. A pretty great intro to the permutations of Platonic and NeoPlatonic thought, from Greek linguist and anti-monotheist, Leonidas. In the end we're magicians and not 'pure' philosophers. Even Plato wanted goetic magicians (goes) all put to death.

LOGOS: In The Beginning Was The Word —or was it?
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A video of David Lynch describing reality pairs beautifully with Guillermo del Toro on Lynch's 'unironic' awareness of the inherent goodness of pie and coffee.

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I think Guillermo Del Toro really does get at something with the paradox of art. Art has themes and messages and conveys a personal viewpoint of the artist. But it is a paradox in that do you truly believe in these messages? You are human with limited understanding but you have to believe to trust to convey to be something.

Despite it being limited. It is what you stand for. It is what you yourself believe in. I find that painting interesting because the face has more detail than the coffee or pie.

What is the inherent goodness of coffee and pie? It may be that simply enjoying a meal is good. That life is worth living for inherent goodness of coffee and pie. But that goodness comes at somewhat of a cost. That coffee may have grown as an invasive plant species for that area and damaged the local wildlife.

But it is not you who planted those trees yet is it your responsibility to know? Or rather is it the responsibility to help create a better inherently good coffee? What is the nature of the human condition if not to improve upon itself and understand the world better.

Why is David Lynch looking at the camera like that? Does he know something we don't? All questions that might never be answered.
 
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